Why do you still use XP?

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  1. xperia

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    For the linux remote access... there's a program that's really good for that, can't remember the name off the top of my head (it's pretty late for me)... or even sure how easy it is to access. Obviously I'm not sure of your technical skills, but at this point, anyone on the forum nowadays is probably pretty well versed in how a computer works.

    I know exactly what you mean about browsers! In my opinion, Firefox is the best one for what I do. However I always have htop running to make sure I don't use up all my RAM! This is particularly problematic since I'm an engineering student, and when you are writing a report while referancing multiple documents, life gets a bit hard when you start pushing the 90% mark for RAM XD. I wish there was a better option (there aren't many I found), but I want to stick with Firefox as long as I can since they are realistically the biggest competition to Google Chrome.

    Servers often don't need to get upgraded if they have a dedicated use. I've heard of a lab server at my university that ran Debian for 10 years straight without a reboot. It was never upgraded, and it was just some 20 year old PC, but if you're only doing basic things, you can use pretty much any OS going back to Windows 3.x
     
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    I've used vnc and another one, but they still leave something to be desired. Plus, I've never got anything working to be able to remote into a linux system, even with packages that supposedly would allow it. :(

    And this is maybe another reason to use a hypervisor that has a software kvm of sorts that allows remote control. Still not as good as rdp for sure--that's what I rely on right now to scale. Need more horsepower? Just turn on another system and rdp into it. For your situation this would be ideal actually--where you have one system where you're writing your report, and another 1-2+ systems where you can keep browsers of different topics open to research. This is how I work, except on a larger scale with usually 15+ systems that I'm rdp'd into, each doing something unique and sometimes just mundane, but perfect for it. Like the p4 that used to be my mom's system that I just now use to keep tabs on the weather and Internet connections. But then I also have some win7 systems that I remote into where 64-bit browsers are required. And the rest of the fleet are mainly just reviewing and working with high-res pdf scans, so it's just video and lan access that they use. It's really surprising how fast even 10-15 year old systems running xp are with a solid video card. At one point I was even RDPing from my 98se system to one of my win7 ones, and it worked fine. :)

    That's what I love about proper computing when it is broken down properly. DAS system (direct attached storage) that cost thousands of dollars that use high-end sas drives can be found today for fractions of the original cost--and the only reason why is because they were upgraded as they work as well today as they did back then. And if your storage is resilliant like this, you don't have to worry about upgrading that part of the whole computing cycle. Breaking down memory, storage, processing, etc into different groups can allow you to skirt a lot of the pitfalls people fight with. Perfect example is XP's 2TB limit on 512n drives. Simple solution--use a NAS and store everything there. My xp systems see my 32TB nas just fine (test nas with 2x 16TB drives raid 0), and because that's where files are, the boot drive can be small and not even be an issue. I think my smallest is only 20GB.

    Profesional write is one of the best word processors I've ever used. Simple and flexible, we literally made every form for our businesses on it, wrote entire partnership agreements on it, and more. And the program will still run on xp with lightning speed. The original quickbooks and quicken are also awesome DOS era programs that nothing even today can beat. The beauty of these under win3.1 was multi-tasking, but xp does that even better and gives these old DOS programs even more memory, caching, and the works. It's pretty amazing to see a spell check of 20 page document finish in less than a second--which I don't think the 16GB systems of today can do with the current bloatware, lol.
     
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    Windows XP was the first time I ever fully experienced a computer. In 2009, my father gave me a worn out computer from his old office that had it on. I loved it, I loved how easy it was to use. I was used to it before on the family's main PC. Eventually when it was too worn out, I switched to a vista that my family bought 4 years prior, and it was fine (despite what most people say about it). I was given my late uncle's PC in 2015 that I still use to this day, and yes, it has Windows XP on it. And to this day, it runs perfectly fine (aside from the occasional slowdown, but I'm pretty good with not downloading viruses).

    Why have I never upgraded past it? Well, I have a spare laptop with Windows 10 (which originally was Windows 7 but my father foolishly let the tech guy downgrade it) and it is absolute garbage. Windows 10's experience is just not user-friendly at all, and with the updates to the OS they're making it harder and harder for the regular consumer to know their way around the system's interface. Not to mention, the awful simplified interface design with flat colors. Some people hate XP's Luna theme as it looks "fisher price", so why did Microsoft throw out the glass-like graphics that 7 had? Oh because it's "futuristic for 2007" not because it looked better than just flat basic colors.

    The main reason why people don't use XP anymore is because of the security risks. Think about it, if Microsoft hadn't pulled the plug on it (rather, cutting it's cord) there would still be a large portion of people still using it to this very day. The only reason why major web browsers like Chrome and Firefox stopped supporting it is because Microsoft stopped supporting it.

    In 2006, people were still using XP.
    In 2009, people were still using XP.
    In 2012, people were still using XP.
    In 2015, people were still somewhat using XP.
    In 2021, almost no one is using XP.

    Why do you think retro gaming in the modern age is so popular? Because it can't simply disappear from the Earth when it gets to a certain age. Do you hear people saying you should not play NES games anymore because they have a risk? Windows XP's security risk is a major issue that you cannot ignore, yes. But, that shouldn't be the reason why people look at XP and just call it "outdated". Because despite not being supported by Microsoft and a lot of developers these days, you can still use it for your daily life. You can still use Twitter, Tumblr, Yahoo, Reddit, Gmail, Facebook, YouTube. Granted, they have a lot of issues surrounding them if you're using the last version of Chrome due to some features not being optimized for it. Mypal's browser is proof that XP is still a viable OS despite what modern computer techies say.

    In my honest opinion, Microsoft should just make XP open source so anyone dedicated to using it can be up to date with things like security updates, web browsers, hell even some PC gaming (really want to play TF2 on my computer instead of needing to resort to my 10 laptop).

    Will I ever need to switch to 10 completely? Eventually I probably will, but when that day comes is a mystery.
    Thanks for reading, all of you.
     
    XPAnarchy, May 3, 2021 at 1:09 AM
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    Awesome first post! Welcome to the club. :)
     
    Samir, May 3, 2021 at 7:42 AM
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