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ClippyBeer · Jun 26, 2020

Well it is summertime and as many COVID-19 restrictions are being lifted folks are spending more time away from the computer

cornemuse · Jun 27, 2020

I totally understand, but,
cases are starting to spike again, , , ,

trimis · Jun 29, 2020

cornemuse said:
I totally understand, but,
cases are starting to spike again, , , ,

COVID will be no different than flu or pneumonia. It will be year-around, but concentrating in 'flu season' (late September through March or April). Death statistics already show it's only slightly more lethal than the various strains of influenza, and if you combine the death rates of flu and pneumonia, it is far less deadly.

trimis · Jun 30, 2020

I have done a lot of Google research into COVID, flu and pneumonia. Here's a sampling:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/history-of-pandemics-deadliest/
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu_pneumonia_mortality/flu_pneumonia.htm
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1103688/coronavirus-covid19-deaths-us-by-state/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/
https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/219557-overview#a6
https://ourworldindata.org/pneumonia

My conclusion is this is a molehill turned into a Mount Everest. My full research is available for the asking...be forewarned, it is a lot of links.

cornemuse · Jul 21, 2020

dAlek · Aug 25, 2020

cornemuse · Aug 27, 2020

Madeleine Takam · Aug 27, 2020

trimis said:
I have done a lot of Google research into COVID, flu and pneumonia. Here's a sampling:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/history-of-pandemics-deadliest/
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu_pneumonia_mortality/flu_pneumonia.htm
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1103688/coronavirus-covid19-deaths-us-by-state/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/
https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/219557-overview#a6
https://ourworldindata.org/pneumonia

My conclusion is this is a molehill turned into a Mount Everest. My full research is available for the asking...be forewarned, it is a lot of links.

I note that you do not use Scientific journals in your citations. I have corrected that for you. From John Hopkins University Hospital:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

The WHO estimates that between 290,000 and 650,000 respiratory deaths globally each year are associated with seasonal influenza. Coronavirus (COVID-19) Death Toll stands at 825,794 as of 27th August 2020

First case detected by Chinese authorities was on 31 December 2019. The projected death toll for Covid-19 is 2 to 3 million. So with very conservative projections 4 to 10 times more deadly.

And that is after the entire world economy has been stopped in it’s tracks and most sensible countries are on lockdowns of some extent.

The knock effects to Cancer patients (Mr Siamese Cat a contributor to this forum being one of those Cancer patients effected.), those with HIV, the elderly and immunocompromised is deadly.

The only hope for these people is a Vaccine. Which those with sense are rushing through.

Original Article: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2251722-everything-you-need-to-know-about-russias-coronavirus-vaccine-claims/

I have put Scientific Paper describing how this form of vaccine is produced - up for download, as unfortunately, because of Robert Maxwell, the general public don’t have access to The Web Of Knowledge, or put another way 90% of the internet.

https://ulozto.net/file/YpLlnQctgZV5/single-shot-ad26-for-review-by-m-takam-pdf

But for example here are some knock on effects killing people if we only take into account your reality of Covid-19 being a bit of mole hill turned into Everest.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30271-0/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30227-3/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(20)30392-2/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31356-8/fulltext

So in my humble opinion not a mole hill – more and utter calamity for all those kids and adults with cancer. Anyone that needs medical treatment. Oh and the 2 to 3 million dead by Christmas.

priscus · Sep 2, 2020

Any comments upon "The strong correlation between Covid morbidity and Populism"?

xphelper · Sep 2, 2020

priscus said:
Any comments upon "The strong correlation between Covid morbidity and Populism"?

No comment on that ... as I'm too scared to speak the truth. I'm not so much scared by the virus itself (just part of Nature, there will always be another virus. No-one can defy Nature), it's how the World shut down with it that terrifies me. I'm just glad I won't have to live forever. To me, the quality of life is more important. Longevity is overrated.

A great philosopher once said, "it's better to be loved than to be right." :-x

Madeleine Takam · Sep 3, 2020

When you make up quotes from “Great Philosophers” It might be an advantage to actually understand the concept of philosophy. No philosopher would ever say "it's better to be loved than to be right." And in actuality no philosopher has.

xphelper · Sep 3, 2020

Madeleine Takam said:
When you make up quotes from “Great Philosophers” It might be an advantage to actually understand the concept of philosophy. No philosopher would ever say "it's better to be loved than to be right." And in actuality no philosopher has.

Your opinions have been noted, even though I disagree with what you said.

xphelper · Sep 3, 2020

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xphelper · Sep 3, 2020

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* Dog for sale. Eats anything and is fond of children.

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cornemuse · Sep 4, 2020

Mainly why I started it!

-c-

priscus · Sep 12, 2020

The smell of petrol - gasoline to you folk stateside: I am sure it smells quite different now to what I recall it being when I was a child. Back then, I thought it a pleasing aroma, but now find it rather nauseating. I know olfactory sense changes as we age, but I wonder if petrol/gas actually does have a different smell today from what it had in 1940's/1950's.

Just wondered if anyone else has observed this?

Elizabeth23 · Sep 12, 2020

my sense of smell is not refined, so it still smells the same to me,

cornemuse · Sep 12, 2020

Yea, it used to have a more 'oily'? smell, didnt burn your eyes so quickly, felt oily on your fingers. <- I used to use it for solvent working on my (multiple!) VW's motors, the stuff is just nasty now.

trimis · Sep 20, 2020

Madeleine Takam said:
I note that you do not use Scientific journals in your citations. I have corrected that for you. From John Hopkins University Hospital:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

The WHO estimates that between 290,000 and 650,000 respiratory deaths globally each year are associated with seasonal influenza. Coronavirus (COVID-19) Death Toll stands at 825,794 as of 27th August 2020

First case detected by Chinese authorities was on 31 December 2019. The projected death toll for Covid-19 is 2 to 3 million. So with very conservative projections 4 to 10 times more deadly.

And that is after the entire world economy has been stopped in it’s tracks and most sensible countries are on lockdowns of some extent.

The knock effects to Cancer patients (Mr Siamese Cat a contributor to this forum being one of those Cancer patients effected.), those with HIV, the elderly and immunocompromised is deadly.

The only hope for these people is a Vaccine. Which those with sense are rushing through.

Original Article: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2251722-everything-you-need-to-know-about-russias-coronavirus-vaccine-claims/

I have put Scientific Paper describing how this form of vaccine is produced - up for download, as unfortunately, because of Robert Maxwell, the general public don’t have access to The Web Of Knowledge, or put another way 90% of the internet.

https://ulozto.net/file/YpLlnQctgZV5/single-shot-ad26-for-review-by-m-takam-pdf

But for example here are some knock on effects killing people if we only take into account your reality of Covid-19 being a bit of mole hill turned into Everest.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30271-0/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30227-3/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(20)30392-2/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31356-8/fulltext

So in my humble opinion not a mole hill – more and utter calamity for all those kids and adults with cancer. Anyone that needs medical treatment. Oh and the 2 to 3 million dead by Christmas.

trimis · Sep 20, 2020

I'm sure you will find some "scientific" citations mixed in with all the anecdotal ones...maybe even some lefty-liberal sources too. I regret I have not had time to put the research in chronological order, as this would suggest a pernicious progression of the MSM coverage. The last part includes flu and pneumonia statistics for comparison, which I also have not had time to bring into sharper focus.

https://www.worldtribune.com/the-numbers-have-spoken-for-this-we-tank-an-entire-economy/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...pundit&utm_campaign=dailypm&utm_content=daily
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/history-of-pandemics-deadliest/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...ins-make-coronavirus-seem-scarier-than-it-is/
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/29/opinion/coronavirus-panic.html
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/27/eighty-percent-of-the-population-has-little-or-not/
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/04...g-coronavirus-to-fulfill-an-orwellian-vision/

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