Windows 11 - love or hate it.

Aunty Jack

Aunty Jack

OK, call me a pirate. Obtained a Windows 11 .iso from an archiving site. Pre-activated. In all other respects un-played with genuine copy. Installed to SSD with Rufus. (Non-TPM, used my existing profile on Win 10, disabled a few things when creating the install USB which Rufus offers.

Away we go. Spent quite some time shutting down all Microsoft "gifts, offers, other Charlie Romeo Alpha Papa things. Used a small app Start11 to dispose of some Linux like icons, change the taskbar and Start panel to offer the same as Win 10. Right, all done. Avast Anti-Virus and my usual programs installed. Ummm, all I can say is fast and far more stable than Win 10. In fact to use an American term, the version of Win 11 I have now is, and will be my "daily driver".

Hardware.
AMD 78LMT board
4Hz 8 core cpu.
16Gb RAM
A not so great AMD Radeon 6450 graphics card
System installed on SSD
Boot from cold 15 seconds

The main thing for me is stability no matter what is running or how many are running. Puts Win 10 out to a quiet paddock to graze on grass

I don't know how many members keep XP but use Win 8.1, 10, 11 but anyway.

Cheers,

Aunty Jack.
 
I have a legit copy of Win11 with my Huawei Matebook laptop. I been using it offline the whole time. To go online I use Deepin Linux on a second partition. Waiting for Huawei to officially launch Harmony OS PCs then I can finally kick Windows to the curbside for good... Useless spyware that's only good when put permanently offline!

Plus Win11 experience... what a disaster. What once only took a right click and a left click to complete, you now have to click a 3rd time because they inserted a stupid 2nd menu into the GUI!!
 
So long Microsuck! (The only reason Windows is ever useful to me because of Visual Studio. I haven't got a clue how or what to use to make apps in Linux and Huawei already got their own IDE to make apps for [Open]Harmony OS!)

Also, remember USA brought this about to their own tech companies. If US never sanctioned Huawei, they'd still be making Android phones and Windows PC's and we wouldn't be standing here reading about impending release of Harmony OS PC's!


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https://www.huaweicentral.com/harmo...or-pcs-is-coming-and-huawei-is-working-on-it/

HarmonyOS operating system for PCs is coming and Huawei is working on it

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12 hours ago
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November 16, 2023
By

Deng Li
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Huawei is working on the HarmonyOS operating system for PCs and it’s coming soon for laptops, notebooks, and PCs, reveals related input from tipster FixedFocus.

In August this year, Huawei released HarmonyOS 4 for smartphones, tablets, smartwatches, TVs, Routers, and other smart devices. The company also announced a smart car cockpit system with this new HarmonyOS version.

However, the company is still selling its PCs and Notebooks running Microsoft Windows operating system. Although, the US bas blacklisted Huawei from purchasing all of its technologies but Microsoft, Intel, and Qualcomm have a special exception from supplying new software and 4G hardware to the Chinese tech maker. Therefore, Huawei can release new notebooks with new chipsets and software.

Unlike its other consumer-based products, PCs are the only ones to feature and it seems like Huawei may soon adapt PCs to HarmonyOS as well.

Regarding the launch date, the tipster said that HarmonyOS for PC devices could unveil next year and it’s highly possible that the company would choose Huawei Developer Conference 2024 as a launch event.

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Cross App Support?
There’s a huge question regarding its app ecosystem, a user in the comment section asked whether the software will support cross-platform applications such as Android or Windows on this new HarmonyOS version for PC.

On that, the tipster replied that Huawei could use a multi-platform simulator engine to resolve such concerns.

Conclusion:
This is a piece of exciting news for all of the people that may have been waiting for the launch of this new software. However, we’ll have to wait until the tech maker announces such news officially.
 
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Hunter2021 said:
I have a legit copy of Win11 with my Huawei Matebook laptop. I been using it offline the whole time. To go online I use Deepin Linux on a second partition. Waiting for Huawei to officially launch Harmony OS PCs then I can finally kick Windows to the curbside for good... Useless spyware that's only good when put permanently offline!

Plus Win11 experience... what a disaster. What once only took a right click and a left click to complete, you now have to click a 3rd time because they inserted a stupid 2nd menu into the GUI!!
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I totally second this exact issue with the Win 11 GUI! Why in the 7734 would anyone want to move down to the bottom of one dialog box and click on "More Options" [or whatever they call it] to bring up a second dialog box - that looks totally different by the way - to simply execute a paste!

Win 11 is nothing more than a Madison Ave, Mass Media and Propaganda outlet that - sometimes - lets one use the software needed to make a living with! As I've mentioned before on these forum boards, it is not what the fathers of personal computing had in mind back in the late-70s and early-80s ... as in they never intended for a home PC to become another form of network television!
 
cleverscreenname said:
The only Win10 I'll boot is my ISO copy of Ameliorated edition :) It was hard to get, but now I feel better knowing I can send it to anyone else.

https://ameliorated.io/

Oh hey, they updated for Win11, sweet.
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So this is like NTLite but modifies your system on the fly rather than creating an ISO? I would rather create a custom ISO so I can upgrade my 7 OS to 10 when the time comes without any of the telemetry shit ever touching my SSD. Is this possible to do with AME?
 
Windows has, arguably, only got worse since XP.

I do have a Windows 11 machine, a mini-PC that I use a remote desktop connection to.. Windows XP can do a remote desktop session to a Windows 11 machine If there is something I cannot accomplish with my XP machine, I at least have a quick option to work around some limitations.

I use Comodo firewall to diligently block unrecognized outbound connections. I've set up some rules that essentially allow for these windows apps/modules/programs to connect to my local network if need be, but anything not matching an address on my local network gets blocked. At least in this way, as a catch all, I don't unnecessarily cripple the machine for use on my local network.

Why does Edge need to connect out to the internet, when I don't want to us Edge anyway? So, I just give it the "no thanks, don't bother me" treatment.
 
Haven't had the displeasure of using Windows 11 yet, still on 10. Edge is very annoying in the way that it's always running in the background because it preloads with Windows. I have seen noobs on other forums rave over how fast Edge loads when you click on its icon compared to other browsers. When you disable the preloading it takes as long as any other chromium browser to load. The other annoyance is regardless of what you set as default browser any help topics you click on in Windows always open in Edge.

I agree Windows has become a bloated monstrosity since XP although I did like 7.
 
Aunty Jack said:
OK, call me a pirate. Obtained a Windows 11 .iso from an archiving site. Pre-activated. In all other respects un-played with genuine copy. Installed to SSD with Rufus. (Non-TPM, used my existing profile on Win 10, disabled a few things when creating the install USB which Rufus offers.

Away we go. Spent quite some time shutting down all Microsoft "gifts, offers, other Charlie Romeo Alpha Papa things. Used a small app Start11 to dispose of some Linux like icons, change the taskbar and Start panel to offer the same as Win 10. Right, all done. Avast Anti-Virus and my usual programs installed. Ummm, all I can say is fast and far more stable than Win 10. In fact to use an American term, the version of Win 11 I have now is, and will be my "daily driver".

Hardware.
AMD 78LMT board
4Hz 8 core cpu.
16Gb RAM
A not so great AMD Radeon 6450 graphics card
System installed on SSD
Boot from cold 15 seconds

The main thing for me is stability no matter what is running or how many are running. Puts Win 10 out to a quiet paddock to graze on grass

I don't know how many members keep XP but use Win 8.1, 10, 11 but anyway.

Cheers,

Aunty Jack.
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Is Internet Archive really piracy? I mean, it's not like the Pirate Bay, it is supposed to have legal torrents. Did you upgrade from Windows XP or from a different OS?
 
cleverscreenname said:
Well, do you call Abandon-ware piracy? It technically is, but you can't hurt a software company that no longer exists. Archive.org hosts a lot of abandonware downloads.
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That's great for educational and availability purposes. Microsoft would be crazy going after such downloads, especially after the unofficial SP5
 
What gets me is how peeps are able to 'cram' windows 11 on old machines... Bought a Dell D820 off ebay & they had 'crammed' windows 11 on it... Just firing up with 4 GB RAM it was using 60% of that... I'm sure it would've taken the machine down just by inserting broadband cable into it... Never looked more forward to a 'reformat' before...

I will never understand why as technology 'progresses' that it has to be so resource hungry, should it not get more efficient?... I guess as long as machines get more powerful yet 'throwaway' they will fill up the resources... Well gone are the days of having to 'optimize' your animated GIFs...
 
BellicoseBloke said:
What gets me is how peeps are able to 'cram' windows 11 on old machines... Bought a Dell D820 off ebay & they had 'crammed' windows 11 on it... Just firing up with 4 GB RAM it was using 60% of that... I'm sure it would've taken the machine down just by inserting broadband cable into it... Never looked more forward to a 'reformat' before...

I will never understand why as technology 'progresses' that it has to be so resource hungry, should it not get more efficient?... I guess as long as machines get more powerful yet 'throwaway' they will fill up the resources... Well gone are the days of having to 'optimize' your animated GIFs...
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Windows XP is simple - no built-in antivirus, no 178 native processes, half of which are there to steal data. Do these 178 processes make it more convenient than MX linux (around 7) or XP? No.

The greatest example for this is that the game client for Roblox itself has roughly 200 MB in size, which is the same as CS 1.6. With one exception. The client only allows you to play online games that people made, while you have 20 maps and tens of weapons always available on CS 1.6. The more you play, the bigger the size of Roblox will get. CS however, stays the same size...

That isn't even mentioning the 2 MB DOS games... however, I think that Windows XP or Windows 7 was the peak of Windows development.
Linux is peaking everytime...
 
BellicoseBloke said:
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I will never understand why as technology 'progresses' that it has to be so resource hungry, should it not get more efficient?... I guess as long as machines get more powerful yet 'throwaway' they will fill up the resources... Well gone are the days of having to 'optimize' your animated GIFs...
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Don't blame it upon technology: I suspect it's more a matter of tech vultures zeroing in on the carrion of human intelligence and culture. The latest OS's seem to be tailored on simpletons that can barely type their own name, sadly the vast majority of today's users. A Windows >7 does the thinking for you whether you need it or not, and even if you don't you have to pay the bill anyway - in cash as well as by suffering all their quirks, bells and whistles.
 
Chiron said:
Don't blame it upon technology: I suspect it's more a matter of tech vultures zeroing in on the carrion of human intelligence and culture. The latest OS's seem to be tailored on simpletons that can barely type their own name, sadly the vast majority of today's users. A Windows >7 does the thinking for you whether you need it or not, and even if you don't you have to pay the bill anyway - in cash as well as by suffering all their quirks, bells and whistles.
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That is right, with browsers and many other things too. That is why Windows has more users than Linux (less cmd), Google more than LibreWolf. You pay in cash AND THEN in your data - everything about you. If a hacker did this, it would be called Double Extortion (ransom received + data released). If Microsoft, Google or any other company does it, it's fine for 99.99% of users (including governments).
 
HaHA!... No I will not blame anything upon 'technology' as long as I can still choose what tech I wanna use which is mostly retro since I really don't care about the internet or how it's 'steering' users... Offline I can be my own king...

But others are with me apparently... Here's Peshay Studio Set (1996) with nothing to see but old Bryce 2 renders & music but uploaded 7 years ago has almost 4 million views & 148,000 likes... Good for them all!!


I started a thread over at the SunVox forum a bit over 2 years ago on a retro music tracker - AXS (ported from DOS to windows in 2001 given free) it is less than 460 KB full directory size does music good if you know music... I just captured the views-

AXS-Views.jpg


Will probably hit a million views by years end... Curious to have a look? Here's the GUI-

AXS.gif


Even has full manual right on the GUI, They just don't make 'em like that anymore...

Sound OK? I guess so if so many are using it... You can judge mine-

Latest - AXS Jazzmonger-

https://alonetone.com/TalkOrBell/tracks/axs-jazzmonger

Before that - Pulp Friction (alert there are some cuss words in this one, there's a back story to that)

https://alonetone.com/TalkOrBell/tracks/pulp-friction

A 30 second jingle - Kernel Klink-

https://alonetone.com/TalkOrBell/tracks/kernel-klink


The upshot is that retro tech is gaining speed & many are rejecting the new as they see 'through it'... I saw this coming decades ago so back then I collected everything I could get my hands on burning to disc for safe keeping... Now that almost nothing works on XP I don't collect anything anymore but I got a good 40 bins of stuff with a good 75% you can't find anywhere anymore...

OK a bit over the top for a reply but I do alot of screens-images so it's same-same for me...
 
BellicoseBloke said:
HaHA!... No I will not blame anything upon 'technology' as long as I can still choose what tech I wanna use which is mostly retro since I really don't care about the internet or how it's 'steering' users... Offline I can be my own king...

But others are with me apparently... Here's Peshay Studio Set (1996) with nothing to see but old Bryce 2 renders & music but uploaded 7 years ago has almost 4 million views & 148,000 likes... Good for them all!!


I started a thread over at the SunVox forum a bit over 2 years ago on a retro music tracker - AXS (ported from DOS to windows in 2001 given free) it is less than 460 KB full directory size does music good if you know music... I just captured the views-

AXS-Views.jpg


Will probably hit a million views by years end... Curious to have a look? Here's the GUI-

AXS.gif


Even has full manual right on the GUI, They just don't make 'em like that anymore...

Sound OK? I guess so if so many are using it... You can judge mine-

Latest - AXS Jazzmonger-

https://alonetone.com/TalkOrBell/tracks/axs-jazzmonger

Before that - Pulp Friction (alert there are some cuss words in this one, there's a back story to that)

https://alonetone.com/TalkOrBell/tracks/pulp-friction

A 30 second jingle - Kernel Klink-

https://alonetone.com/TalkOrBell/tracks/kernel-klink


The upshot is that retro tech is gaining speed & many are rejecting the new as they see 'through it'... I saw this coming decades ago so back then I collected everything I could get my hands on burning to disc for safe keeping... Now that almost nothing works on XP I don't collect anything anymore but I got a good 40 bins of stuff with a good 75% you can't find anywhere anymore...

OK a bit over the top for a reply but I do alot of screens-images so it's same-same for me...
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It is not the technology's fault, it is the fault of the companies making the malicious technology.
 
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