Windows 3x/9x Discussion

Well, I still have an eMachines tower I bought new back in 1999 with 98SE on it... used it till about 2004 had just 64 MB RAM pretty much did just fine back in the day where everybody 'optimized' their websites in every way how nice that was rather than the GBs needed nowadays for all the shite running in the background (AND foreground)... Ran it with absolutely no firewall nor A/V either but it did collect up some adware & a couple other nasties... Certainly had to be careful what & how stuff was installed on it to keep OS from being wiped out... Sold ALOT of stuff through that machine on ebay back then...

I have it disassembled out in the shop, haven't ran it for a decade or more... I'm sure I'll have to pull the RAM sticks out & push back in as below zero temps thru the winters causes RAMs to disconnect... (I did upgrade to 128 MB RAM LOL)...
 
I love Win9x, memorized a ton of tweaks for them. Most importantly, always limit your vcache in system.ini
Are you aware of Rudolph Lowe's patches? They can do amazing things for 9x such as modern support for AHCI+SATA, 48bit LBA+2TB, 2.1ghz+ fix, Shell32 extensions for XP programs, TRIM for SSD, USB 2.0, and WDM extensions so you can use XP-style drivers.
 
No I wasn't, that's cool! I tried Windows 95C on my XP rig because it's bootable, but it gives the too high cpu speed thing after install, whenever I boot it up, how can I install the CPU Patch, and safe mode doesn't make a difference.
 
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Windows 95 High-Speed Processor Support v. 3.0 By LoneCrusader
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CONTENTS OF THIS PACKAGE:
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README.TXT - Self Explanatory.

FIX95CPU.EXE - Self-Extracting Bootable Floppy Disk image.

FIX95CPU.IMA - A standard image of the Bootable Floppy.
(For Virtual Machines.)

FIX95CPU.ISO - A standard Bootable CD image.
(For Virtual Machines, or systems without a floppy drive.)

VMM2XUPD.EXE - HotFix with updated VMM.VXD's for Windows 95 B OSR2.
(Install in Windows 95 B OSR2 after Setup has completed.)

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NOTE:

The first section of this README will explain the issues addressed
by this patch. If you are familiar with these issues, you may skip to
the second section for step-by-step instructions.


SECTION ONE:
------------

Windows 95 has two specific errors when dealing with processors
with speeds higher than 350 MHz. With a little patience however,
both of these errors are fixable.


The first error occurs with processors greater than 350 MHz.
Microsoft released a patch for this error, AMDK6UPD.EXE. This
patch IS NOT just for AMD processors. It will work for Intel
Pentium 4 processors as well. The problem with Microsoft's patch
is that it must be run from within Windows. When your system
encounters this error, you will not be able to boot into Windows.
This error will be displayed on the first reboot during the
installation process.

Here is the text of the error:

While initializing device IOS:
Windows Protection Error. You need to restart your computer.

The only way to fix this error is to manually install the files
contained in the Microsoft AMDK6UPD.EXE patch. This package automates
the process for you, so I will not go into further detail on that
issue here.


The second error occurs with processors greater than 2.1 GHz.
This problem also affected Windows 98 (First Edition), and Microsoft
issued a HotFix for Windows 98, but not for Windows 95. According to
Microsoft, there is no fix for this problem in Windows 95... WRONG!
This error is very similar to the previous one, and it will also be
displayed on the first reboot of the install process, after you have
fixed the previous error.

Here is the text of the error:

While initializing device NDIS:
Windows Protection Error. You need to restart your computer.

This error is corrected by an updated file contained in the DUN14-95.EXE
Dial-Up Networking 1.4 Update for Windows 95. This package automates
the process for you, so I will not go into further detail on that
issue here.


NOTE:
This update renders the AMDK6UPD.EXE patch OBSOLETE, as it
installs newer versions of some system files contained within
AMDK6UPD.EXE. While the main purpose of this update is to
enable the use of High-Speed Processors, I decided to include
any available newer versions of the system files already
contained in this patch.


List of Issues (MSKB Articles) FIXED by this update:
----------------------------------------------------

Q192841 - Difficulties Using AMD K6-2 or Athlon Central Processing Unit
Q234259 - Revision to AMD K6-2/350 Central Processing Unit Update
Q312108 - Windows Protection Error in NDIS with CPU Faster Than 2.1 GHz
Q231942 - Cannot Undock Notebook Computer with LS-120 Removable Drive
Q175629 - Large IDE Hard Disk May Run In Compatibility Mode
Q274175 - Error Opening/Copying File/Folder Eight Levels Deep on CD-ROM
Q159153 - Error Messages While Backing Up to Some Floppy Disk Drives


This update also includes a patched version of CDFS.VXD using PTCHCDFS,
a free update by Rudolph Loew (rloew) to fix the incorrect size value
(1.99GB) reported by Windows 9X for DVD's.

A separate bug exists in Windows 95 RTM/A that causes DVD sizes over
4GB to not have their byte counts displayed properly, showing "---"
instead, but the correct total size of the DVD will still be displayed.
Installing other update packages for Windows 95 RTM/A may yield a
solution to this, but has not been tested.


Also included in this version is a HotFix, VMM2XUPD.EXE, which installs
the latest version of VMM.VXD for Windows 95 B OSR2. This package should
be installed when Windows 95 B OSR2 Setup has completed. This update will
not run on Windows 95 RTM/A and is not required on Windows 95 C OSR2.5.


Credits & Other Information:
----------------------------

Rudolph Loew has also created a free UDF filesystem driver for reading
UDF formatted CD's/DVD's in Windows 95. It can be obtained from his site
at {http://rloew1.no-ip.com} or mirror at {http://rloew.limewebs.com}.

Many thanks go out to Rudolph Loew for his assistance with this project!

Credit also goes to Petr at MSFN for providing patched files for 95 RTM.

And finally credit to Queue at MSFN for creating the ANSI Windows Logo.

For further information and updates, visit this topic at MSFN Forums:
www.msfn.org

Windows 95 2.1GHz CPU Limit BROKEN!

***UPDATED 06-10-2013*** I have managed to fix the 2.1GHz CPU limit of Windows 95. Completely with updates from Microsoft... when they claimed there was no fix for this. Here's a link to the MSKB article on this issue. Q312108 - Windows Protection Error in NDIS With a CPU That Is Faster Than 2.1 ...
www.msfn.org

This package makes use of the General Replace (GR) text replace utility
created by Andrew Sharrad, which can be found at:



SECTION TWO:
------------

Follow these Instructions to get Windows 95 up and running.

You Will Need:

Blank Floppy Disk or Blank CD
Files Contained In FIX95CPU.ZIP

NOTE:
If your system does not have a floppy drive, the FIX95CPU.ISO
Bootable CD image in this package can be used (with Nero or
a similar CD burning program) to create a bootable CD that can
be used instead of a floppy.

NOTE:
These instructions and the FIX95CPU installer assume that
you are installing Windows 95 to C:\ Drive, however you can
use a directory other than C:\WINDOWS.


1. On another computer, use the self-extracting Floppy Disk image
(FIX95CPU.EXE) or the Bootable CD image (FIX95CPU.ISO)
provided in FIX95CPU.ZIP to create a custom Boot Disk
that will contain this patch.

2. Prepare your system and run Windows 95 Setup.

3. When Windows 95 asks you to Restart, insert the Boot Disk or
Boot CD that you created with the enclosed image, and click
Finish. You should have the Boot Disk or Boot CD inserted
BEFORE Windows Setup continues and the IOS error is displayed
in order to speed up the boot process by combining .VXD's
with WININIT.EXE, but this version allows for installation
after the IOS error has been displayed.

4. The Boot Disk will start your computer in DOS mode. Press SPACE and
you will be given an opportunity to view this README file.
Choose Y or N, and then all you need to do is press SPACE again
to bring up the next page of the README, or to apply the patch.
The program will output its actions to the screen so you can see
what is being done.

Pressing CTRL-C at any time will terminate the FIX95CPU program.

5. When finished, press SPACE to reboot your system, then remove the
Boot Disk or Boot CD so Windows 95 Setup can continue normally.


If you are installing Windows 95 RTM/A or C OSR2.5, you are finished.

For Windows 95 B OSR2 ONLY:


6. When Setup is complete and your Windows Desktop loads, run
VMM2XUPD.EXE to update VMM.VXD to the latest version, and you
will be prompted to restart.

This update is not necessary on Windows 95 C OSR2.5.

If you have Windows 95 RTM/A or C OSR2.5, skip this step.
The VMM2XUPD.EXE will not install on Windows 95 RTM/A.

The VMM2XUPD.EXE update addresses the following issue:
Q179897 - Memory Management Problems with Pentium Processors


You have successfully completed all steps.

Install the drivers for your hardware and your programs.


Have Fun!


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KNOWN ISSUES:
-------------

1. If you plan to install the Microsoft USB Supplement to Windows
95 OSR2 (USBSUPP.EXE), be aware that this update will sometimes
overwrite the file C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\VMM32\NTKERN.VXD without
prompting you to keep the newer file already installed by this
patch. If this occurs, the following error will be displayed:

While initializing device NTKERN:
Windows Protection Error. You need to restart your computer.

This can be corrected by recopying the NTKERN.VXD contained in
this patch to your system.


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LEGAL INFO:
-----------

THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED FREE OF CHARGE WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTIES
OR GUARANTEES.
BY USING THIS SOFTWARE, YOU AGREE THAT YOU USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK AND
OF YOUR OWN FREE WILL.
THE AUTHOR(S) OF THIS SOFTWARE SHALL NOT BE HELD LIABLE FOR ANYTHING
RESULTING FROM THE USE OR MISUSE OF THIS SOFTWARE.
IF YOU MODIFY THIS SOFTWARE, PLEASE REMEMBER TO CREDIT THE ORIGINAL
AUTHOR(S) FOR THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT(S).

---------------------------------------

This software brought to you by Conner McCoy (LoneCrusader) with
assistance from Rudolph Loew (rloew).

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Mine says :

While initializing device IOS:
Windows Protection Error. You need to restart your computer.

Also I have a 2.13GHZ Core 2 Duo, and I take out most of my RAM and GPU, I still can't enter Windows to apply the patch.
 
cleverscreenname said:
SECTION TWO:
------------

Follow these Instructions to get Windows 95 up and running.

You Will Need:

Blank Floppy Disk or Blank CD
Files Contained In FIX95CPU.ZIP

NOTE:
If your system does not have a floppy drive, the FIX95CPU.ISO
Bootable CD image in this package can be used (with Nero or
a similar CD burning program) to create a bootable CD that can
be used instead of a floppy.
Click to expand...

You don't fix this in Windows, you fix this in DOS.
 
Didn't you mention having a USB floppy drive? Plug that into a computer connected to the internet and make this Fix95 boot floppy.
Does the laptop have a cd drive? Same thing, you could burn a CD off the internet.
Another option, remove the laptop hard drive and plug it into an internet computer with a USB-IDE adapter, they're about $5 on eBay.

Several Microsoft DOS tools (FDisk might be one) will complain "incorrect Dos version" if you try to use a tool that shipped with an OS other than the one you currently booted. SetVer.exe will sometimes fix that for you. 3rd-party tools never have this fake issue, and run on all versions and brands of Dos. FDisk can be a pain to use, so I like to use Ranish Partition Manager, part.exe is only 64kb so it doesn't take much space on your disk. Bonus, it can align partitions to any starting sector boundary you like (a significant speed boost, if evenly divisible by 2048), I like to use 65536 (64kb).
 
I'm confused with the software mentioned lol, also I would love to image a floppy for the patch, but there is no legit software for that, also the HDD is dead, the cd drive is not being detected by the boot disk, and I hope that compaq laptop you mentioned will give you advice to help, My Compaq LCD has extremely dim characters (black characters basically) how can I fix it?
 
Tons of software can write floppy and CD images, there's nothing illegitimate about that! I like WinImage and MagicISO, but there's many others, including one in that archive. You simply need to add cd drivers to the dos boot disk such as:
device=a:\ide-cd.sys in config.sys
mscdex /d:ncicd001 in autoexec.bat
Yeah, it seems silly to spend time and money on a laptop with an almost dead screen and a "dead" hard drive, considering how cheap those old laptops are on eBay. I'd give you any of mine laying around but that would mean I'd have to carefully pack it up and pay for shipping lol. I've never been a big laptop fan, I like desktops. I think the crappy keyboards are the biggest reason, and the uncomfortable viewing angle and small screen, and screw touchpads!
 
cleverscreenname said:
Tons of software can write floppy and CD images, there's nothing illegitimate about that! I like WinImage and MagicISO, but there's many others, including one in that archive. You simply need to add cd drivers to the dos boot disk such as:
device=a:\ide-cd.sys in config.sys
mscdex /d:ncicd001 in autoexec.bat
Yeah, it seems silly to spend time and money on a laptop with an almost dead screen and a "dead" hard drive, considering how cheap those old laptops are on eBay. I'd give you any of mine laying around but that would mean I'd have to carefully pack it up and pay for shipping lol. I've never been a big laptop fan, I like desktops. I think the crappy keyboards are the biggest reason, and the uncomfortable viewing angle and small screen, and screw touchpads!
Click to expand...
No, I want to fix up this Compaq, I got it from E-waste for free, it looks brand new too. I think parts-hq.com is decent, they have all the parts, I will put aside money for this project and probably order from there or ebay, idk.
 
cleverscreenname said:
Tons of software can write floppy and CD images, there's nothing illegitimate about that! I like WinImage and MagicISO, but there's many others, including one in that archive. You simply need to add cd drivers to the dos boot disk such as:
device=a:\ide-cd.sys in config.sys
mscdex /d:ncicd001 in autoexec.bat
Yeah, it seems silly to spend time and money on a laptop with an almost dead screen and a "dead" hard drive, considering how cheap those old laptops are on eBay. I'd give you any of mine laying around but that would mean I'd have to carefully pack it up and pay for shipping lol. I've never been a big laptop fan, I like desktops. I think the crappy keyboards are the biggest reason, and the uncomfortable viewing angle and small screen, and screw touchpads!
Click to expand...
HaHAW!... I prefer towers too but here we have no room for such having a small home... i already have 40+ CD-DVD bins fulla burned software & such that take up much space... Back in 2010 when I built an addon to the house a closet I had studded in was filled up by Wife before I could panel it if that says anything... Laptops I can pile up or stick in corners..., I have backpacks on my two computer chairs that house 1-2 laptops each, some are stacked up on a shelf...
 
Help Needed, Windows 98 Fake A:\ Removable disk and making USB Floppy an E:\ drive, not allowing boot disk creation

How to fix? and can you change drive letters in Win98?
 
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