Problem when Booting up XP computer !

[boss1968]

Well in the bios where the computer is idle I guess it shouldn't get higher than 60 degrees celcius. Because that would mean that when the computer is actually doing something it would get too hot and shutdown by itself.

Okay, so how do I shut down the overclocking in the BIOS? What steps do I have to take? I went into the BIOS tonight, because the computer didn't boot up again (it was fine for the last 3 days), and I didn't really know what to do. I looked for a step by step online, but nothing was for an XP computer, everything was for modern PCs, so I didn't know what section to go into in the BIOS, or what to look for. Any continued help is greatly appreciated.

 

[Madeleine Takam]

Okay, so how do I shut down the overclocking in the BIOS? What steps do I have to take? I went into the BIOS tonight, because the computer didn't boot up again (it was fine for the last 3 days), and I didn't really know what to do. I looked for a step by step online, but nothing was for an XP computer, everything was for modern PCs, so I didn't know what section to go into in the BIOS, or what to look for. Any continued help is greatly appreciated.

Common keys to get into the Bios are Del, F2, F10, F1 or Esc. Then set your CPU to 2.00ghz or a multiple of the 33mhz bus. Or a multiple of the PCIX bus. Or maybe a multiple of the PCIE bus. I would always recommend taking you memory off high RAS and setting clock speed lower. Are you running Auto / XMP. Obviously as you know, you should just open the case up and use a cheap Infrared Thermometer to check the memory sticks and CPU for hot spots. It’s the first thing I always do. If you don’t have one. Go and purchase one off ebay now.

I have tried to use telepathy really hard this morning to check exactly what motherboard and memory you have. But even though I am a witch, I was unable to see visions. Maybe this afternoon I will sacrifice a chicken and see if I can see exactly what motherboard and memory you have.

If this fails, send me pictures of the inside of the case. Specifically, the name of the motherboard and model. Also, the brand and name of the memory. I will then dig up your motherboard manual and see if I can help you with settings.

Getting into the bios is a really easy process. So is setting to normal clock speed. In Africa we teach children how to do this. Like so: -

1. Disconnect magic box plug
2. Open up magic box
3. Look at complex thingies.
4. Ignore all complex thingies and look for white man writing on plastic square at back of box
5. Plastic square is usually anything from 20cm by 20cm to 40cm by 40cm.
6. White man writing usually hidden, so he can conceal his magic.
7. Once you find magic writing photograph with phone
8. Take photo to Witch Doctor, he will advise, which buttons to press.

I would strongly suggest, that if you don’t know how to get into the bios and what exact motherboard and memory you have, you would be far better taking to a computer shop (Or local Witch Doctor).

Here is a picture of local Witch Doctor in Africa who fix magic box.

 

[ImWolf]

Boss,

Please try this. Download this zip file. It's a portable version of the program, so you extract the contents into a new directory and just run the "aida64.exe" file. This software will tell you more about your system than you need to know, including if anything is set to over clocking.

download2.aida64.com (US)

What are you dealing with? A tower? Desktop? Laptop? Have you opened the case and looked for any obvious problems? Cobwebs? Checked for loose cables? Capacitors with popped tops?

In any case, with Aida64 you can answer almost any Q folks have pertaining to your system. Enjoy.

Wolf

 

[MisterEd]

Here is what the temperatures looks like in an old computer I have running Windows XP. Note I took a picture of the BIOS screen with my phone.

 

[boss1968]

Well in the bios where the computer is idle I guess it shouldn't get higher than 60 degrees celcius. Because that would mean that when the computer is actually doing something it would get too hot and shutdown by itself.

I did go into the BIOS and saw that the temp was 53 celsius/129 F. When I looked at the cool n quiet section, it only gave me two options, auto and disabled. It was already on disabled, so I put it on auto. Why is there no 'enabled' option ? Will being in auto help ?

 

[tekkaman]

If it stayed that way for like 30 mins and didn't go higher than that then it's an ok temp. Cool and quiet It's an AMD feature that's makes the CPU speed go up and down as needed to lower temps and voltages. Usually you should leave that on. Unless you have good cooling.

If your system turned off by itself and the temps were fine. Then the problem lies elsewhere. Maybe a bad power supply ?

 

[MisterEd]

I did go into the BIOS and saw that the temp was 53 celsius/129 F. When I looked at the cool n quiet section, it only gave me two options, auto and disabled. It was already on disabled, so I put it on auto. Why is there no 'enabled' option ? Will being in auto help ?

It is OK to enable Cool-n-Quiet. I have an ASUS motherboard that supports it but I never bothered with it.

The only computers that I have that run Windows XP are quite old. I only run Windows XP on them because of that.

I do have a computer that may have with a motherboard similar to yours. However, I am running Windows 7 and 10 on it.

My closest system:
MBD: ASUS M4N82 Deluxe
CPU: AMD Phenom II 960T X4
RAM: Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 8GB (4x2GB)
GPU: ASUS ENGTX560 DCII OC/2DI/1GD5 1GB

The ASUS M4N82 Deluxe motherboad supports: AMD AM3/AM2+/AM2;Phenom II/Athlon II/Phenom/Athlon/Sempron Processors | AMD Cool 'n' Quiet Technology. That means it also will use an AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ CPU like you have. BTW, I do have a Athlon 64 X2 3800+ that I planned to use but never did.

If you can download Speccy. It will show more of what you have.

Speccy

Download Speccy | Find your computer specs, free!

Speccy - find the details of your computer's specs. Great for spotting issues or finding compatible upgrades. Download the latest version today.

www.ccleaner.com

Here is what it shows for my computer:

To keep an eye on the temperature all the time I run Core Temp

Core Temp

Core Temp

Core Temp is a compact, no fuss, small footprint, yet powerful program to monitor processor temperature and other vital information.

www.alcpu.com

Here is what it looks like

 

[boss1968]

If it stayed that way for like 30 mins and didn't go higher than that then it's an ok temp. Cool and quiet It's an AMD feature that's makes the CPU speed go up and down as needed to lower temps and voltages. Usually you should leave that on. Unless you have good cooling.

If your system turned off by itself and the temps were fine. Then the problem lies elsewhere. Maybe a bad power supply ?

Well, as I said in my original post, the problem is when the computer boots up. If I get it to boot properly, then it runs fine the rest of the time. It only seems to be a booting up problem. And then I got that overclocking message so that's what led me to look into the overclocking issue.
I never even knew about overclocking, until the computer itself mentioned it on the error screen.
Just a year ago, I got a brand new power supply, so I don't know if that's the problem. But it could be. I just don't think power supplies only last one year.
So, what I did for now is I put a cool and quiet on auto, and took it off disabled. There was no option for enabled given, which I found weird. It just said Auto or disabled.
Is that the language used for MSI motherboards?

 

[boss1968]

It is OK to enable Cool-n-Quiet. I have an ASUS motherboard that supports it but I never bothered with it.

The only computers that I have that run Windows XP are quite old. I only run Windows XP on them because of that.

I do have a computer that may have with a motherboard similar to yours. However, I am running Windows 7 and 10 on it.

My closest system:
MBD: ASUS M4N82 Deluxe
CPU: AMD Phenom II 960T X4
RAM: Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 8GB (4x2GB)
GPU: ASUS ENGTX560 DCII OC/2DI/1GD5 1GB

The ASUS M4N82 Deluxe motherboad supports: AMD AM3/AM2+/AM2;Phenom II/Athlon II/Phenom/Athlon/Sempron Processors | AMD Cool 'n' Quiet Technology. That means it also will use an AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ CPU like you have. BTW, I do have a Athlon 64 X2 3800+ that I planned to use but never did.

If you can download Speccy. It will show more of what you have.

Speccy

Download Speccy | Find your computer specs, free!

Speccy - find the details of your computer's specs. Great for spotting issues or finding compatible upgrades. Download the latest version today.

www.ccleaner.com

Here is what it shows for my computer:

View attachment 1515

To keep an eye on the temperature all the time I run Core Temp

Core Temp

Core Temp

Core Temp is a compact, no fuss, small footprint, yet powerful program to monitor processor temperature and other vital information.

www.alcpu.com

Here is what it looks like

View attachment 1516

So, keeping the cool and quiet on auto, is the same as enabling it? Because like I said earlier, it only gave me two options, Auto or disabled, so I put it on auto. When I checked the BIOS it was already on disabled. If you have a similar motherboard as mine, as you say, what options do you have for cool and quiet? Does yours say Auto or disabled, or does yours say enabled or disabled?

 

[boss1968]

It is OK to enable Cool-n-Quiet. I have an ASUS motherboard that supports it but I never bothered with it.

The only computers that I have that run Windows XP are quite old. I only run Windows XP on them because of that.

I do have a computer that may have with a motherboard similar to yours. However, I am running Windows 7 and 10 on it.

My closest system:
MBD: ASUS M4N82 Deluxe
CPU: AMD Phenom II 960T X4
RAM: Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 8GB (4x2GB)
GPU: ASUS ENGTX560 DCII OC/2DI/1GD5 1GB

The ASUS M4N82 Deluxe motherboad supports: AMD AM3/AM2+/AM2;Phenom II/Athlon II/Phenom/Athlon/Sempron Processors | AMD Cool 'n' Quiet Technology. That means it also will use an AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ CPU like you have. BTW, I do have a Athlon 64 X2 3800+ that I planned to use but never did.

If you can download Speccy. It will show more of what you have.

Speccy

Download Speccy | Find your computer specs, free!

Speccy - find the details of your computer's specs. Great for spotting issues or finding compatible upgrades. Download the latest version today.

www.ccleaner.com

Here is what it shows for my computer:

View attachment 1515

To keep an eye on the temperature all the time I run Core Temp

Core Temp

Core Temp

Core Temp is a compact, no fuss, small footprint, yet powerful program to monitor processor temperature and other vital information.

www.alcpu.com

Here is what it looks like

View attachment 1516

By the way, I did download and try to install Speccy, but it said it was not a valid win32 application. :-(

 

[tekkaman]

Well, as I said in my original post, the problem is when the computer boots up. If I get it to boot properly, then it runs fine the rest of the time. It only seems to be a booting up problem. And then I got that overclocking message so that's what led me to look into the overclocking issue.
I never even knew about overclocking, until the computer itself mentioned it on the error screen.
Just a year ago, I got a brand new power supply, so I don't know if that's the problem. But it could be. I just don't think power supplies only last one year.
So, what I did for now is I put a cool and quiet on auto, and took it off disabled. There was no option for enabled given, which I found weird. It just said Auto or disabled.
Is that the language used for MSI motherboards?

It depends if you got a good brand powersupply. It's all really weird. But I remember there was a computer in my mother's house that had a similar issue to what you described and the problem was that the wall receptacle wasn't properly grounded.

There's also another thing I always do and is that I never plug my computers directly to the wall socket. I use a good surge protector and turn the surge protector off when I'm not using it. That way it doesn't leave the computer energized all the time.

 

[boss1968]

It depends if you got a good brand powersupply. It's all really weird. But I remember there was a computer in my mother's house that had a similar issue to what you described and the problem was that the wall receptacle wasn't properly grounded.

There's also another thing I always do and is that I never plug my computers directly to the wall socket. I use a good surge protector and turn the surge protector off when I'm not using it. That way it doesn't leave the computer energized all the time.

Yes, I've been doing the same thing for many years. I never plug my computer directly into a wall socket. I have everything plugged into a surge protector, and I always turn off the surge protector when I'm not using the computer. Whenever I use the computer, I have to turn on the surge protector first and then press the on button on the computer for it to work. I don't know. Like I said before, and you agreed, this is all pretty weird.

 

[boss1968]

It is OK to enable Cool-n-Quiet. I have an ASUS motherboard that supports it but I never bothered with it.

The only computers that I have that run Windows XP are quite old. I only run Windows XP on them because of that.

I do have a computer that may have with a motherboard similar to yours. However, I am running Windows 7 and 10 on it.

My closest system:
MBD: ASUS M4N82 Deluxe
CPU: AMD Phenom II 960T X4
RAM: Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 8GB (4x2GB)
GPU: ASUS ENGTX560 DCII OC/2DI/1GD5 1GB

The ASUS M4N82 Deluxe motherboad supports: AMD AM3/AM2+/AM2;Phenom II/Athlon II/Phenom/Athlon/Sempron Processors | AMD Cool 'n' Quiet Technology. That means it also will use an AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ CPU like you have. BTW, I do have a Athlon 64 X2 3800+ that I planned to use but never did.

If you can download Speccy. It will show more of what you have.

Speccy

Download Speccy | Find your computer specs, free!

Speccy - find the details of your computer's specs. Great for spotting issues or finding compatible upgrades. Download the latest version today.

www.ccleaner.com

Here is what it shows for my computer:

View attachment 1515

To keep an eye on the temperature all the time I run Core Temp

Core Temp

Core Temp

Core Temp is a compact, no fuss, small footprint, yet powerful program to monitor processor temperature and other vital information.

www.alcpu.com

Here is what it looks like

View attachment 1516

Also, since we have similar motherboards, can you please let me know how to get to the section where I can check if overclocking is on? Thanks.

 

[ClippyBeer]

By the way, I did download and try to install Speccy, but it said it was not a valid win32 application. :-(

I used to use Speccy until they were acquired by Avast. Now I use HWiNFO.

HWiNFO

HWiNFO: Free software download for olderv versions of windows.

www.fosshub.com

Scroll down to V6.42 and use that for XP.

 

[ClippyBeer]

Common keys to get into the Bios are Del, F2, F10, F1 or Esc. Then set your CPU to 2.00ghz or a multiple of the 33mhz bus. Or a multiple of the PCIX bus. Or maybe a multiple of the PCIE bus. I would always recommend taking you memory off high RAS and setting clock speed lower. Are you running Auto / XMP. Obviously as you know, you should just open the case up and use a cheap Infrared Thermometer to check the memory sticks and CPU for hot spots. It’s the first thing I always do. If you don’t have one. Go and purchase one off ebay now.

I have tried to use telepathy really hard this morning to check exactly what motherboard and memory you have. But even though I am a witch, I was unable to see visions. Maybe this afternoon I will sacrifice a chicken and see if I can see exactly what motherboard and memory you have.

If this fails, send me pictures of the inside of the case. Specifically, the name of the motherboard and model. Also, the brand and name of the memory. I will then dig up your motherboard manual and see if I can help you with settings.

Getting into the bios is a really easy process. So is setting to normal clock speed. In Africa we teach children how to do this. Like so: -

1. Disconnect magic box plug
2. Open up magic box
3. Look at complex thingies.
4. Ignore all complex thingies and look for white man writing on plastic square at back of box
5. Plastic square is usually anything from 20cm by 20cm to 40cm by 40cm.
6. White man writing usually hidden, so he can conceal his magic.
7. Once you find magic writing photograph with phone
8. Take photo to Witch Doctor, he will advise, which buttons to press.

I would strongly suggest, that if you don’t know how to get into the bios and what exact motherboard and memory you have, you would be far better taking to a computer shop (Or local Witch Doctor).

Here is a picture of local Witch Doctor in Africa who fix magic box.

View attachment 1513

Are there still witch doctors that still know how to troubleshoot/repair XP problems? All the ones here only do Windows 10/11.

 

[boss1968]

I used to use Speccy until they were acquired by Avast. Now I use HWiNFO.

HWiNFO

HWiNFO: Free software download for olderv versions of windows.

www.fosshub.com

Scroll down to V6.42 and use that for XP.

Thank you! Will this also tell me what type of motherboard I have?

 

[MisterEd]

Also, since we have similar motherboards, can you please let me know how to get to the section where I can check if overclocking is on? Thanks.

Sometimes people change BIOS settings to get a little more performance out of their computer. This is called overclocking. Unless you changed them yourself they should be a the default settings. You shouldn't change these settings unless you know what you are doing.

Sorry about Speccy. I should have given you a link to an old version that does work with Windows XP.

Speccy 1.20.446

Download Speccy 1.20.446 for Windows - OldVersion.com

Works on: Windows 7 / Windows 7 x64 / Windows 8 / Windows 8 x64 / Windows Vista / Windows Vista x64 / Windows XP / Windows XP x64

Here is an example of Speccy 1.20.446 running in Windows XP:

AIDA32 is another good program that works in Windows XP

AIDA32 - Personal System Information 3.93

Download AIDA32 - Personal System Information - MajorGeeks

AIDA32 is a professional system information, diagnostics and benchmarking program running on Win32 platforms. It extracts details of all components of the PC. It can display information on the screen,...

www.majorgeeks.com

 

[Madeleine Takam]

Are there still witch doctors that still know how to troubleshoot/repair XP problems? All the ones here only do Windows 10/11.

Not many Witch Doctors in Africa deal with Windows XP now. Microsoft and the Western technology companies are desperate to keep us on board, so they have made a big push to get us using windows 10 and 11 (There are 2 billion of us, so a big market.)

Some unusual facts about Africa and computing:

In Africa, YouTube allows people to officially download, because if they didn’t, we would anyway.

https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...st-countries-support-offline-video-downloads/

Africa invented phone banking back in 2007. The West panicked, so now you all have it too.

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20131217-east-africa-a-mobile-banking-hub

https://infomineo.com/financial-services/digital-banking-in-africa-origins-and-development-outlook/

This Witch Doctor does deal with XP, which is why I am here. Although I am always suspicious of software analysis of motherboards and kit. Too many times I have found it will give just the series and not the model and especially not the revision. For instance, I got an X9DAE when using CPU-Z, HWiNFO64 and a couple of other programs, that’s ok even using an X9DA7. But I was using and X9DAI, which is an entirely different set up in the bios and half the chip set is different.

As my telepathic abilities are limited. If people could have been bothered to send a photo of their motherboard with make, model series and revision. I would have sent the manual and what settings are required. To my mind, it a lot less faffing about to just open the case and have a look. C’est la vie

 

[ClippyBeer]

As my telepathic abilities are limited. If people could have been bothered to send a photo of their motherboard with make, model series and revision. I would have sent the manual and what settings are required. To my mind, it a lot less faffing about to just open the case and have a look. C’est la vie

I find this to be the case with many new posters. Apparently we're supposed to divine the make/model etc. and provide a quick simple fix. I tend to ignore postings that lack relevant information.

I reiterate my stance - Legacy OSes are for PC experts, not novices.

 

[ClippyBeer]

Thank you! Will this also tell me what type of motherboard I have?

Yes, but so will the ones @MisterEd linked to.