Cloudflare won't get me there.

ImWolf

ImWolf

Running Windows XP Pro SP3 w/ MyPal68 v.13.7b

Has anyone solved how to get passed (or bypass) the Cloudflare bot without using an add-on or a Python script?

With my Linux Mint Firefox v.136 browser I can connect to Bleepingcomputer.com, but with the XP MyPal browser the "Verifying you are human" swirly thing will stay on the screen forever. (Zenrows doesn't like the MyPal browser either.)

I've tried going into "about:config" and tinkering with several UserAgent options, but no joy so far.
 
I'm not experiencing this issue at bleepingcomputer.com. I don't even see a cloudflare prompt.

MyPal 28:

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MyPal 68:

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Both in Windows XP SP3. Here's my addons in MyPal 68 - maybe one of these gets me past the bot?

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Your location? VPN?
 
Clippy.... my bad for leaving a detail out. I can bring up the web page same as you, but when I try to login to my account, and have already entered User/Pass is when Cloudflare intervenes and I'm left hanging.
 
Please unblock challenges.cloudflare.com to proceed.

after trying 3 different mypals and then 360 12.0.1247 . in the mypals i could not get past the circling of cloudfare verifyication, with 360 I got to the verifying with the above error, but I have no Idea how to unblock this as I do not have any thing running in the 360 portable browser, also I was only able to get it to load after turning off my antivirus as it insists on running it in a sandbox and then takes at least 10 minutes to load each and every page.

I know that there are addons that are supposed to stop this, and there are several websites that I cannot use because of this, so I hope someone has a solution, :)
 
Elizabeth23 said:
Please unblock challenges.cloudflare.com to proceed.

I was only able to get it to load after turning off my antivirus as it insists on running it in a sandbox and then takes at least 10 minutes to load each and every page.
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Thanks for the effort Elizabeth.... but as you can see, Cloudflare is quite persistent. I guess people have been dealing with this for a long time now, but it hasn't been a nag for me until recently. I really don't know much about adding Python scripts to a browser, which is what most of the online "fixes" describe. I was hoping some sort of UA spoofing would get me past these security checks, but so far I have only found combinations that break MyPal. LOL
 
I don't have access to my XP laptop this weekend but I tested ArcticFoxie's 360 Chrome 13.5 on my Win 10 laptop and was able to get past the cloudflare verification on a different website whereas MayPal 68/Win 10 wouldn't.

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The various security bots and schemes will probably continue becoming more annoying for those of us that choose to use older software. As my OP says, I can get past most of these with Linux and it's fairly new version of Firefox. Rebooting to a different OS is also a minor annoyance though, but that's what it takes now.

Anyway, I'm no longer interested in connecting to BleepingComputer.... the "BSOD Expert" there refuses to help anyone running Windows XP. LOL
 
From further research, it seems cloudflare does not support xp. Just will need to find other websites in lieu of the ones I cannot get to, I used to refer links to bleeping computer, but now they will only be able to be accessed if a win 10 or 11 pc is available to the xp user, :).
 
Elizabeth23 said:
From further research, it seems cloudflare does not support xp. Just will need to find other websites in lieu of the ones I cannot get to, I used to refer links to bleeping computer, but now they will only be able to be accessed if a win 10 or 11 pc is available to the xp user, :).
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Funny thing is, they have a section on their tech forum for Windows XP and Vista..... LOL
 
Correct, I have never successfully passed a cloudfare challange with mypal. When a site insists, I switch to chrome-based Thorium, then XP passes. Sad and disturbing, Cloudfare.
 
It's been an on-going issue for MyPal's "parent", Pale Moon, too.....all starting around the same kind of time (some months ago).

I moderate at BC, and PM has been my favourite 'daily' browser for long enough. Until very recently, I couldn't log-in at BC via PM, and have had to use one of the several other 'portable' browsers I re-package for the Puppy Linux community.....just for that one site.

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Currently, Pale Moon have been issued what effectively amounts to a "hall pass" - after much hassling of the CloudFlare developers (and threats of legal action) - which is allowing PM through the "turnstile", pending code changes for which they've been given a deadline of June 30th. I would assume the code changes should filter through to MyPal sooner or later.

Moonchild has been extremely vocal in his condemnation of CloudFlare, especially in light of the fact that they appear to see themselves as latter-day policemen of t'internet.......going so far as to dictate which browsers they will allow through to websites they "protect" (basically Chrome, mainline Firefox, Edge and Safari). Nowt else.

It's not entirely CF's fault, though. If AI hadn't ascended when it did, they would probably never have needed to develop this 'protection' against 'scrapers' that is making the lives of webmasters across the net an absolute bloody nightmare ATM. Without protection against AI scraper bots, websites left, right & centre would be crashing again & again on a daily basis. The little buggers throw in so many thousands of requests in such a short period of time, it amounts to a DDoS attack. The servers can't handle it.

Sign o' the times, unfortunately. It's summat we're all going to have to get used to, 'cos you'll be seeing an awful lot more of CloudFlare before long. I've never believed that any single organization can be trusted with that much control over everybody else, but.....they will be everywhere. Because they offer a simple, "set it & forget it" solution that webmasters are jumping at. And for that, you cannot blame them.

(*shrug...*)


Mike. ;)
 
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Thanks for that Mike.... it's becoming more of a jungle all the time.

Very recently I've even had issues clicking on some Reddit and SuperUser links, but all they did was tell me my browser was out of date. So I updated my browser (spoof) to the latest version of FF and those issues went away. Almost the same with BC, as I now don't see the CF crap at all, but they don't accept the spoofed UA either, and won't allow login.

I've noticed that on the Linux FF version (138), the UA is now a Hex value that changes constantly..... so the days of even spoofing your UA are coming to an end as well?

Hopefully, all these security changes will end up with the sites implementing them discovering a lot less monetization (traffic).... and they'll make a financial decision? Not sure about the rest of you, but if someone tells me I'm no longer welcome, I'll quit knocking on that door, and find somewhere else to hang out.
 
Mypal: I've had success with some stubborn sites by spoofing Chrome (ick), and some creative script disabling via uMatrix. I haven't attempted spoofing as macintosh, mobiles, game consoles, or bots yet. I haven't got Reddit to load comments, just the OP, but I didn't try very hard. I'm very glad to hear about the massive pushback against the Cloudfare Browser Policing.
 
cleverscreenname said:
I haven't got Reddit to load comments, just the OP, but I didn't try very hard.
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I've found that some sites like Reddit are kinda finicky... the OP will load, but you can't see ensuing comments until you click on the Reddit logo beneath the OP. On some other sites, (don't remember them now), you just click in space somewhere on the page and it changes to what should have been loaded in the first place.
 
Right. Also when script disabling screws up the webpage formatting too much, I just CTRL+A select all text and paste it into Notepad, where I can read comfortably with any font and size.
 
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