Ressurrected M$ newsgroups...

I used to use this group for about a year, until mid-summer, when Microsoft
announced it was closing down all of it's public news servers!

I'm interested to see this group ( microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics )
resurrected again, this time NOT on Microsoft's news server, but taken up
by ( nntp.aioe.org )!!

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)

On 10/31/10 2:11 AM, Tim Meddick wrote:
> I used to use this group for about a year, until mid-summer, when
> Microsoft announced it was closing down all of it's public news servers!
>
> I'm interested to see this group ( microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics )
> resurrected again, this time NOT on Microsoft's news server, but taken
> up by ( nntp.aioe.org )!!

Just because Microsoft has shut down their news server that doesn't mean
that the newsgroups it had have disappeared from all of the others.
They will still be there but with much less message traffic than before.
I've looked at the forums that Microsoft has wanted it's users to
switch to and what a joke. I'd much rather stay with a newsgroup even
though there won't be as many people reading and posting messages.


--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.6
Sunday, October 31, 2010 5:52:26 AM

In article <iaj4qm$21u$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) says...
>
> I used to use this group for about a year, until mid-summer, when Microsoft
> announced it was closing down all of it's public news servers!
>
> I'm interested to see this group ( microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics )
> resurrected again, this time NOT on Microsoft's news server, but taken up
> by ( nntp.aioe.org )!!

Many long time users ignore posters from aioe.org and other free
services because of the amount of trolling and off-topic posts.

These MS groups are not going to vanish from the servers of reputable
Usenet providers.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 07:11:14 -0000, Tim Meddick wrote:
>
> I used to use this group for about a year, until mid-summer, when Microsoft
> announced it was closing down all of it's public news servers!
>
> I'm interested to see this group ( microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics )
> resurrected again, this time NOT on Microsoft's news server, but taken up
> by ( nntp.aioe.org )!!

Resurrected? It was never gone.

Another lie by Microsoft (or at best a lie by omission): the idea
that they somehow control the Internet and can "shut down a
newsgroup".

See "What newsgroups are an dhow they work" at
http://www.anta.net/misc/nnq/how-it-works.shtml

It sounds like you are under the impression that a newsgroup has a
single location. That is emphatically not the case. Every single
server chooses to carry or not carry every newsgroup, so which groups
are available to you depends on which server you use. For example,
at news.individual.net I can't get any binary newsgroups, but they're
still out there.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 09:20:19 -0400, Stan Brown <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 07:11:14 -0000, Tim Meddick wrote:
>>
>> I used to use this group for about a year, until mid-summer, when Microsoft
>> announced it was closing down all of it's public news servers!
>>
>> I'm interested to see this group ( microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics )
>> resurrected again, this time NOT on Microsoft's news server, but taken up
>> by ( nntp.aioe.org )!!
>
>Resurrected? It was never gone.
>
>Another lie by Microsoft (or at best a lie by omission): the idea
>that they somehow control the Internet and can "shut down a
>newsgroup".

A lie? What lie? How is people not understanding the difference between a
newsserver and a newsgroup a lie?

mady
--
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their
level, then beat you with experience.
Honi soit qui mal y pense

On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 18:13:12 -0400, mady wrote:
>
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 09:20:19 -0400, Stan Brown <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
> >Another lie by Microsoft (or at best a lie by omission): the idea
> >that they somehow control the Internet and can "shut down a
> >newsgroup".
>
> A lie? What lie? How is people not understanding the difference between a
> newsserver and a newsgroup a lie?

I didn't say Tim lied; I said Microsoft did, at least by omission.

Microsoft gave the impression that they had the power to shut down
newsgroups. What would you call the opposite of telling the truth?


--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

They didn't really lie,

.....or even lie by omission!

They were perfectly clear that they [Microsoft] were going to stop hosting
it's groups.

I was aware that others carried those groups, but sort of didn't know if
they would carry on after M$ dumped them.

It was only when I saw on the server that held the only other two
newsgroups I subscribe to (nntp.aioe.org), that some of the microsoft
groups had been taken up by them (they were never hosted by "nntp.aioe.org"
before), did I jump at the chance to see if they might be as popular as
they were before.....

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Stan Brown" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) t...
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 18:13:12 -0400, mady wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 09:20:19 -0400, Stan Brown
>> <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>> >Another lie by Microsoft (or at best a lie by omission): the idea
>> >that they somehow control the Internet and can "shut down a
>> >newsgroup".
>>
>> A lie? What lie? How is people not understanding the difference
>> between a
>> newsserver and a newsgroup a lie?
>
> I didn't say Tim lied; I said Microsoft did, at least by omission.
>
> Microsoft gave the impression that they had the power to shut down
> newsgroups. What would you call the opposite of telling the truth?
>
>
> --
> Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
> http://OakRoadSystems.com
> Shikata ga nai...

On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 19:37:53 -0000, Tim Meddick wrote:

> It was only when I saw on the server that held the only other two
> newsgroups I subscribe to (nntp.aioe.org), that some of the microsoft
> groups had been taken up by them (they were never hosted by "nntp.aioe.org"
> before), did I jump at the chance to see if they might be as popular as
> they were before.....

The MS groups might not have been carried by 'nntp.aior.org' until recently,
but they have always been carried by other servers than MS. They used to be
available on the old SBC Global news servers, carried over through the name
change (to AT&T after SBC bought AT&T), but discontinued when AT&T finally
dropped news service altogether. They were also available at
'news.motzarella.org', and carried over through that name change, to
'news.eternal-september.org'. I believe most of the fee-based news services
also carry the MS groups; and have since before MS shut down their news
servers.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum