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Robert Harris
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      16th October 2004
This is sort of off topic and relevant to the topic.
I'm currently studying for an MCSA and MCSE. I am 2 tests away from the
MCSA. I take a 3rd exam Monday - 70-291. As I have been preparing, I have
realized how involved networking is, especially with infrastructure and
security. I have a good amount of experience with end user desktop support,
service and repair and some basic fundamental networking knowledge. Lately,
I am feeling overwhelmed by the wealth of information pertaining to
networking and am wondering if there are some of you that just get it. Or,
is this a normal feeling? Is it nonsense to think that I should understand
all of this at once or is it more realistic to think that it is definitely
going to take a ton of hands-on? Do some people know it all or is that
impossible? Personally, I don't see anyone can know every aspect of this
topic unless that person is seriously gifted. I definitely don't feel like I
am going to remember everything I read in preparation for each exam.

Rob


 
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Testy
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      17th October 2004
Judging from what I have seen most MCSE's don't remember much of anything!

Testy

"Robert Harris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> This is sort of off topic and relevant to the topic.
> I'm currently studying for an MCSA and MCSE. I am 2 tests away from the
> MCSA. I take a 3rd exam Monday - 70-291. As I have been preparing, I have
> realized how involved networking is, especially with infrastructure and
> security. I have a good amount of experience with end user desktop
> support,
> service and repair and some basic fundamental networking knowledge.
> Lately,
> I am feeling overwhelmed by the wealth of information pertaining to
> networking and am wondering if there are some of you that just get it. Or,
> is this a normal feeling? Is it nonsense to think that I should
> understand
> all of this at once or is it more realistic to think that it is definitely
> going to take a ton of hands-on? Do some people know it all or is that
> impossible? Personally, I don't see anyone can know every aspect of this
> topic unless that person is seriously gifted. I definitely don't feel like
> I
> am going to remember everything I read in preparation for each exam.
>
> Rob
>
>



 
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David H. Lipman
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      17th October 2004
I have worked with many Computer Analysts with superior knowledge than those with a MCSE.
Most think or have been told that with those letters they can get a good job. Problem is
there is a large percentage who have done so w/o practical experience and no applicational
knowledge and are all but useless. Of course that varies based upon the individual.

Dave




"Testy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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| Judging from what I have seen most MCSE's don't remember much of anything!
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| Testy
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| "Robert Harris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| > This is sort of off topic and relevant to the topic.
| > I'm currently studying for an MCSA and MCSE. I am 2 tests away from the
| > MCSA. I take a 3rd exam Monday - 70-291. As I have been preparing, I have
| > realized how involved networking is, especially with infrastructure and
| > security. I have a good amount of experience with end user desktop
| > support,
| > service and repair and some basic fundamental networking knowledge.
| > Lately,
| > I am feeling overwhelmed by the wealth of information pertaining to
| > networking and am wondering if there are some of you that just get it. Or,
| > is this a normal feeling? Is it nonsense to think that I should
| > understand
| > all of this at once or is it more realistic to think that it is definitely
| > going to take a ton of hands-on? Do some people know it all or is that
| > impossible? Personally, I don't see anyone can know every aspect of this
| > topic unless that person is seriously gifted. I definitely don't feel like
| > I
| > am going to remember everything I read in preparation for each exam.
| >
| > Rob
| >
| >
|
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Mike Brannigan [MSFT]
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      17th October 2004
"Robert Harris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> This is sort of off topic and relevant to the topic.
> I'm currently studying for an MCSA and MCSE. I am 2 tests away from the
> MCSA. I take a 3rd exam Monday - 70-291. As I have been preparing, I have
> realized how involved networking is, especially with infrastructure and
> security. I have a good amount of experience with end user desktop
> support,
> service and repair and some basic fundamental networking knowledge.
> Lately,
> I am feeling overwhelmed by the wealth of information pertaining to
> networking and am wondering if there are some of you that just get it. Or,
> is this a normal feeling? Is it nonsense to think that I should
> understand
> all of this at once or is it more realistic to think that it is definitely
> going to take a ton of hands-on? Do some people know it all or is that
> impossible? Personally, I don't see anyone can know every aspect of this
> topic unless that person is seriously gifted. I definitely don't feel like
> I
> am going to remember everything I read in preparation for each exam.
>


Robert,

There are a large number of MCSE/MCSA in the filed - they all managed to
learn the required material to pass the exam.
In addition to the basic material you should also be able to demonstrate
practical experience in the field of study also, as most employers etc look
for more then a paper qualification.
So to answer your questions, you should be able to learn the relevant
material, you do also need a "ton of hands on" to gain the necessary skill
and credibility beyond the paper qualification, you do not need to be
seriously gifted to have a wide and deep knowledge set on this area, it is
just like any other subject, you have to have the desire and natural ability
to learn understand and use this knowledge.
You can always take the exam again if you feel it highlights areas in your
study that are deficient.
--

Regards,

Mike
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"Robert Harris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> This is sort of off topic and relevant to the topic.
> I'm currently studying for an MCSA and MCSE. I am 2 tests away from the
> MCSA. I take a 3rd exam Monday - 70-291. As I have been preparing, I have
> realized how involved networking is, especially with infrastructure and
> security. I have a good amount of experience with end user desktop
> support,
> service and repair and some basic fundamental networking knowledge.
> Lately,
> I am feeling overwhelmed by the wealth of information pertaining to
> networking and am wondering if there are some of you that just get it. Or,
> is this a normal feeling? Is it nonsense to think that I should
> understand
> all of this at once or is it more realistic to think that it is definitely
> going to take a ton of hands-on? Do some people know it all or is that
> impossible? Personally, I don't see anyone can know every aspect of this
> topic unless that person is seriously gifted. I definitely don't feel like
> I
> am going to remember everything I read in preparation for each exam.
>
> Rob
>
>



 
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